In this lesson ski instructor Darren Turner takes a look at three key skills to help you learn how to ski steep runs: edging, foot rotation and body separation.
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he seems to come from racing,nice explainations, but when you see him ski ,it`s sort of naja...his hips don`t seem to be right,downhill knie always a bit too straight and his hips-oh had that one..don`t know what else it really is -just not on point...
moving the weight onto the new outside ski before flattening is also essential, should be step 0. otherwise you cant flatten the skis in the first place to start the next turn. skiing is a race to the outside ski.
The resort is Serre Chevalier in the Southern French Alps. Long way to go but worth it as you avoid too many English voices, it's pretty snow sure (lots of stuff above 2k metres and north facing slopes) and the runs are beautiful among the trees which grow higher than other resorts as they're larch.
I'm a snowboarder, never skied and want to know why y'all have poles? I mean if you don't pole plant you cant link your turns or lose balance? What are you pole planting in powder? BTW the poles make you look retarded
Rotating the leg? we say turn the legs here. Rotation is something totally different, in a bad way. Rotation is a 4 letter word in skiing.You need to have separation of upper /lower body to maintain grip
I went skiing once when young and 5 times in the last 2 years. I watched and imagined doing drills Mr. Turner covers in these videos during times between skiing and taken one beginner ski lesson. I am tremendously grateful for the time, care, and expertise put into these videos and to the effort of the beginner ski lesson. I have progressed in the past 5 sessions: Greens, Blues, Blues, Easy Black, Blacks with bumps. Yesterday when I looked up at a mogul run that I navigated under control (though slow) without falling or being erratic I really felt accomplished and had so much fun. The Parallel turn (this video) and steeps video probably did me the most good but the others built the base. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
As a midwesterner, I may ski thrice a year and see plenty of ice. I kind of bootlegged a warmup run but it would be nice if you made an actual video for the now and then skier (1x-3x a year). Currently I pick a blue for the first run start super slow with hockey stop after hockey stop for the first third, speedy parallel turns for 2nd third, then straight speed to hockey stops last third. I feel after that I can move safely about but my skiing is probably rubbish :) Do you have a standard warmup for hacks? What about the bumps? How do you warm up for that other than just be mentally ready? The bumps definitely punish when I am not focused and show weakness in my tactics.
I don't think this necessarily needs to be an "expert" lesson. A lot of these tips were given to me by my ski instructor, and I only ski blues. It's just good form and keeps your speed in check regardless of your level. Also just a suggestion: during these lessons can you show what it looks like when you're doing it badly/wrong? It's really helpful to be able to visually identify when you're doing it correctly or not.
Amazing video! I am working my way to a blue-black and was curious to how you manage steep hills, turns out when I was on a green that I made those movements that you would on the steep hills when I'd get nervous, so if I was doing that on a green, I should be able to do it on a blue-black.
Hi ! My skies are a bit longer than they should be based on my height. Since I know that longer skies are used for faster skiing, it must be possible to gain control over them. Do you have tips for that ? Thank you in advance !
Great video and very useful tips. Are you emphasizing the movements for demonstrating purposes? I noticed there seems to be a little more snow being kicked up towards the back of the ski (almost skidding- 4:40) rather than pure carving with the front or the entire entire ski. When I release my edges I try not to stop quite as much so each turn flows a little more. It's probably just because you are on a steep- hard to judge the grade in a video. Anyway- enjoyed the video and learned something new!
Oh hell yes! This is a breakthrough video for me. Im a regular hockey skater going skiing for the first Time next week. this was was I was most curious about.
Question: how demanding is skiing on your ankle and feet muscles? Hockey skating can be brutal, but I noticr ski boots really anchor the lower legs tightly... Does this mean the movemens are more from the upper legs? Hip groin, butt...
Darren, where are you stationed? next winter i would like to come to take lessons in person. i am in New York. how much would it be for 2 weeks of group lessons? i don't think i can afford private lessons for two weeks
so i'm back into skiing after a 20 year hiatus. (started surfing and that was it...). I'm Swiss ski school trained even took some racing classes in my youth. I had no problem getting back into skiing, went down double black diamonds in Snowbird, effortless. But I realize I have that oldschool technique (pre parabolic skis). I guess I shift my weight too much even lift my skis on very tight slalom turns. Any tips to adapt to the "new" style? Ps: great channel!
This is definitely geared towards mature adults. Many kids and teenagers with their young minds and bodies can take on double black diamonds with little difficulty without getting a scratch on them, but an adult needs to use a lot of strategy and logistics to do so!
Riiigghhht, just wait until you get hit by a younger out of control skier. I've been hit a few times and every time it was when I was at the side of a steep waiting for someone. You think you're out of the way standing at the very edge but noooo! I think this video is very important for young skiers to pay attention to.
It's one thing taking on a double black diamond, but being able to ski it with rhythm and control is another thing entirely. A lot of youngsters fall in to the trap of thinking they're better than they are because they manage to get down a black.
Maybe you can help me here. I'm too lazy to read all the comments. I've been skiing 6 years now, 48 years old, and been skiing blues and higher only 3 years. I can handle single black diamonds (Alyeska standards) okay, but under one condition: if they're groomed and snow not falling like crazy. Ungroomed runs are difficult! I own skis that are the same as those ones you rent. Are those bulky fat ones with the curved tips really necessary to make it easier? I have a feeling it would be like carrying two lead weights on my legs.
Fat skis are cheaters. You want Scot Schmidt's 220cm sticks seen in Warren Miller's Ski Time (1983). Seriously, fats are easier. It's all about balance on the ungroomed. In deep snow, each turn is a greater potential range of motion because your tips & tails can dive in powder plus full weight on one foot will cause that ski to sink deep while the other skims the top. I've skied & snowboarded in 2 meters of fresh unconsolidated snow & it's fantastic, but also dangerous due to immersion suffocation. Start with 10-30 cm, maintain balance, & build confidence.
Hi Jon. Yes the wider off-piste skis do help float through deeper snow and essentially make it easier. They are not essential but do help. Having the extra width under your feet can take a bit of getting used to especially on-piste but when you're skiing powder the feeling is sensational and the extra size is not noticeable. Just keep the rhythm and momentum going.
For more tips on the basics of skiing powder check out our other films:
Hope that helps.
They aren't necessary to make it easier. Try to hold your ski's as close as possible against each other.
Never use a pizza point and keep enough speed to make your next turning.
It's also handy to lean a little bit backward, so you have more stability when there is something beneath the snow.
Freeride ski are good for skiing in deepsnow, they make it easier but it is possible with some practise to ski with regular ski's in deepsnow.
Ski School by Elate Media this looks like a better place. Alaska's Alyeska is not much of a learning curve for those that started skiing past their 20's if they want to tackle The North Face. That one is grueling!
Darren......I started with the first 3 videos on 12/11/15. My first slide was on the same day. I had never been on a ski ever in my life. Tip/Waist/Tail and DIN setting ????
By the end of Dec. I was proficient on Blue's. Over the next 4 months I skied the majority of our resorts 92 runs. Black diamonds,steeps,trees and powder. I also had 4 hour long group lessons as well. However,I have to say your lessons helped me more than anything else. I skied over 30 days with over half being 4-10 hr. days. I really got the "bug"!
This coming season I will concentrate on further refining my technique and reviewing these great videos. I am a success story of how a great series of videos with your instructor talent, got me enjoying this wonderful sport!! 95% self taught to boot.......thank you !!
Wow! I'm glad that we could be a part of such an amazing transformation and get you into such an awesome sport. We put a lot of time and effort into removing all the jargon and nonsense to make sure Darren delivers concise information that will help you learn how to ski. It's great to hear that it has helped.
Thank you for the positive feedback it makes it all worthwhile.
Cheers Noddy. (ElateMedia)
I was amazed at how quickly these lessons help to build confidence. Even as a novice skier the steep gradients no longer feel scary when you just breathe and keep focused on the basic body positioning and foot rotation. Many thanks for such a well thought-out series!
Just spent the last couple of years learning to get rid of the wedge and the skid and carve cleanly: useful style on open slopes especially if you want to go fast. Harb influenced me a lot here. However, that technique has been a problem on double blacks; too much speed buildup.Your clear explanation of foot rotation during the flat transition which coincides with unweighting the skis - this clicked in my head. I can't wait to put it into practice, and hopefully enjoy double blacks with your well- explained technique.
I'm in Telluride now and watching your videos are giving me more confidence. I have improved my carving and my parallel this week. I'm quite excited really! I'm still struggling with staying in full control thru "double blues" with steep bits as I gain quite a bit of speed, but working with my breathing and telling myself to be calm and your voice in my head from the videos I've watched so far, I might just master (clearing the throat) my Intermediate Level skiing. :) Thank you Darren and Elate Media for your fantastic support! xx
I have not yet skied at Telluride and heard nothing but great things about it. Mainly that it is a total paradise for intermediate and more casual skiers. Only place I've skied is Alaska and there's either easy local hills in Anchorage and Fairbanks, or mostly advanced at Alyeska.
Thanks +Houdi2. We've worked so hard on the scripts to make sure we deliver really concise skiing lessons that help you guys learn how to ski. So it's great to hear such positive feedback from you. Have a great winter. Cheers Noddy
Finally a very important technique being taught! All these 'carving or nothing' styles of teaching have been creating stiff skiers down the slopes! This technique lets us control our speed so much better, it's a great skill to add to all the skills we need for all different types of terrain.
Could you do a video on the difference between a short fast turn where one alternates from one edge to another quicky versus a short radius turn that sheds speed. Short fast turns on the steeps look cool but certainly don't shed much speed - else they would not be a carved turn.
I agree. I got hit from behind by a mad carver at Mont Tremblant a few years ago just a bit after I exited the moguls to the side of a slope. Out of control guy doing the groomed center trying to stay on his edges only. That hurt! High edge angle means the ski follows the prescribed side cut radius and that's a very gradual sweeping turn.
Couldn't agree more +Zeyn1111. 'Carving' is a bit of a buzzword in skiing and it's great fun. But it is only one skill you need to have in your bag of skiing tricks to becoming a true master of the mountain. Thanks for the feedback and glad it helps.
İts now my third season ı always keep the magical advices in my mind "just roll on your knees"( for carving) "just rely on your skis, they ll cut through the snow " (on rough terrain) if i can consider myself an upper intermediate skiier now ,this series has definitely made the biggest contribution
Absolutely the best and I have told others. You should take pride in this Ski School series. I wish I had had it back when I started, skills would have come much more easily. Better late than never to straighten out my technique with some theory and reason. Simply the best from beginner to expert, THANKS!
+zzebowa Try carving on the steeps and in the bumps and you will spend more time on your backside!! You have to learn many different skill sets for all mountain skiing and carving is just ONE of those skills. Skidding and pivoting are essential skills and more useful than carving. Its not about fashion!
+zzebowa carving is just another tool in the bag of tricks. Can't use it when the turn radius is shorter than your ski. Think a narrow 8 foot crux. Giant waist high bumps and trees are also not a good place to try a carve only style. Giant powder bowls, however, that's carving heaven.
+zzebowa : Unless you are an expert skier who likes to carve all your turns even on the steep --resulting in a lot of speed , side slipping (pivot slip) to control speed is a must to learn. This video is excellent for intermediates to advanced skiers to learn how to ski in control on the steep
+Jenna Welch - In many of these videos, Darren points out that when you find yourself making mistakes or unable to do something, always just go back a step to the basics and go from there. Don't be discouraged, just get back out and get your muscles and brain working together again. :)
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