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Expert Ski Lessons #7.5 - Skiing Steeps

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http://www.SkiSchoolApp.com. In this lesson ski instructor Darren Turner takes a look at three key skills to help you learn how to ski steep runs: edging, foot rotation and body separation. This ski lesson series is aimed at building on your advanced skiing technique and helping make you an Expert all mountain skier. Check out our Apps - there are no ads and once downloaded no need for expensive streaming or downloading when on the hill, with nearly half an hour of video, a diary facility, split-screen video analysis that uses the device's video camera to compare your skiing with demos and much more it's the ultimate how to ski, teaching app. iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/artist/elatemedia.com/id390656741?affId=1894531 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Elate+Media Windows: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-GB/store/publishers?publisherId=ELATE%2BMEDIA%2BLTD Remember that these how to ski videos are not a replacement for on-slope instruction with a qualified ski instructor, and should only viewed as a supplement. Subscribe to our channel for more Ski School lessons and tips to help improve your skiing. Get inspiration with new ski videos uploaded throughout the winter that can help you learn how to ski better ready for your ski holidays.
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Dwight Smith (6 days ago)
He has excellent videos. He breaks the movements down into digestible instruction.
Silver Fletcher (7 days ago)
The main secret of skking: steep Forward and never back. The steeper the slope the more you must bend Forward.
vtrmcs (14 days ago)
Weirdly, in snowboarding the flattening is day 1 material. Not the steeps or turning, it's just how you control a snowboard at the most basic level. Feels unnatural even on a snowboard.
domcasual84 (14 days ago)
Is anyone checking this dudes hips?
Peter Mitterrutzner (27 days ago)
he seems to come from racing,nice explainations, but when you see him ski ,it`s sort of naja...his hips don`t seem to be right,downhill knie always a bit too straight and his hips-oh had that one..don`t know what else it really is -just not on point...
Thank you so much great Channel
miyatyan0805 (2 months ago)
richard975 (2 months ago)
moving the weight onto the new outside ski before flattening is also essential, should be step 0. otherwise you cant flatten the skis in the first place to start the next turn. skiing is a race to the outside ski.
Craig Houdeshell (3 months ago)
Excellent lesson. Thank you.
a2littleralph (5 months ago)
Your link from lesson 7.4 to here is broken. It leads back to lesson 7.3. Love the content BTW.
TheCaptainhaddock1 (7 months ago)
The resort is Serre Chevalier in the Southern French Alps. Long way to go but worth it as you avoid too many English voices, it's pretty snow sure (lots of stuff above 2k metres and north facing slopes) and the runs are beautiful among the trees which grow higher than other resorts as they're larch.
Chickencat 10 (7 months ago)
i go straight down
Spencer Parkin (7 months ago)
Thanks, Darren. I've been using your videos all winter, and I really think they've helped me learn to ski.
Gary Frost (7 months ago)
My uncle Rico says that he can throw a football right over that mountain.
Alexandre Thuaud (7 months ago)
Carlos Esteban Gottardi (8 months ago)
Your lessons are the best on internet i have found so far. Do you have some lessons for icy black slopes ?. Thanks!!!! keep doing that excellent work.
Fester Adams (8 months ago)
I'm a snowboarder, never skied and want to know why y'all have poles? I mean if you don't pole plant you cant link your turns or lose balance? What are you pole planting in powder? BTW the poles make you look retarded
Dwight Stones (8 months ago)
Just curious how tall are you and what size skies (CM). Thanks
Tony Depp (8 months ago)
You make it look so easy ! I went to a steep slope today almost broke both my legs
Tim Mcmurtree (8 months ago)
Yea. I need this video. I went down a blue run from the top of the mountain. Couldn’t shave off speed, and ate sh!t going like mach 5.
msanders98 (8 months ago)
Rotating the leg? we say turn the legs here. Rotation is something totally different, in a bad way. Rotation is a 4 letter word in skiing.You need to have separation of upper /lower body to maintain grip
Julian Cheng (9 months ago)
Right around 1:06-1:11, you can see him flip from facing one way across the hill to the other. Has he done a video on how to do that?
porakai (9 months ago)
Thank you!!!
Michael freeman (9 months ago)
Great videos , very explanatory Thank you much . I skied in brevant , cormyere and Argentiner , great places
Gary Pool (9 months ago)
I went skiing once when young and 5 times in the last 2 years. I watched and imagined doing drills Mr. Turner covers in these videos during times between skiing and taken one beginner ski lesson. I am tremendously grateful for the time, care, and expertise put into these videos and to the effort of the beginner ski lesson. I have progressed in the past 5 sessions: Greens, Blues, Blues, Easy Black, Blacks with bumps. Yesterday when I looked up at a mogul run that I navigated under control (though slow) without falling or being erratic I really felt accomplished and had so much fun. The Parallel turn (this video) and steeps video probably did me the most good but the others built the base. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. As a midwesterner, I may ski thrice a year and see plenty of ice. I kind of bootlegged a warmup run but it would be nice if you made an actual video for the now and then skier (1x-3x a year). Currently I pick a blue for the first run start super slow with hockey stop after hockey stop for the first third, speedy parallel turns for 2nd third, then straight speed to hockey stops last third. I feel after that I can move safely about but my skiing is probably rubbish :) Do you have a standard warmup for hacks? What about the bumps? How do you warm up for that other than just be mentally ready? The bumps definitely punish when I am not focused and show weakness in my tactics.
Kk_shammari_kK (9 months ago)
This is just like carving but in a shorter way
Bucket List Badass (9 months ago)
Damn good video!
Réka Szabó (9 months ago)
Your videos are soooooo useful!!!!! Thank you very much!*-*
headphonic8 (9 months ago)
I don't think this necessarily needs to be an "expert" lesson. A lot of these tips were given to me by my ski instructor, and I only ski blues. It's just good form and keeps your speed in check regardless of your level. Also just a suggestion: during these lessons can you show what it looks like when you're doing it badly/wrong? It's really helpful to be able to visually identify when you're doing it correctly or not.
이은실 (9 months ago)
Very very helpful !!
uN nAm (9 months ago)
Great work! Keep it up!
Joel Whalen (9 months ago)
Why face down the the hill
sportsygirl8 (9 months ago)
Amazing video! I am working my way to a blue-black and was curious to how you manage steep hills, turns out when I was on a green that I made those movements that you would on the steep hills when I'd get nervous, so if I was doing that on a green, I should be able to do it on a blue-black.
stephen miller (9 months ago)
Good technique, but take it into the steep to demonstrate the steep. Fall line initiation becomes so much more critical.
Gamer Flash114 (10 months ago)
Teach harder stuff.
Gamer Flash114 (10 months ago)
+that slope is a blue which is sooooo easy
Gamer Flash114 (10 months ago)
What is this? Skiing noobs school. This stuff is easy and im a pro skier at age 11.
Black Goreinu (10 months ago)
MD ST (10 months ago)
Excellent instructions!
Miao MA (10 months ago)
At 4min 30s
Giuliano Cislaghi (10 months ago)
Yeah all these theories only seem to be applied to blue runs. You can always make sense of a blue run - even backwards
Nóri Oravecz (10 months ago)
Hi ! My skies are a bit longer than they should be based on my height. Since I know that longer skies are used for faster skiing, it must be possible to gain control over them.  Do you have tips for that ?  Thank you in advance !
TCA_ SnKn (10 months ago)
This is like a 5 at squaw
Ginger Kenny (10 months ago)
You have to know how to keep control of your skis when your 20 degree slope right m'dudes
David Walko (11 months ago)
Great video and very useful tips. Are you emphasizing the movements for demonstrating purposes? I noticed there seems to be a little more snow being kicked up towards the back of the ski (almost skidding- 4:40) rather than pure carving with the front or the entire entire ski. When I release my edges I try not to stop quite as much so each turn flows a little more. It's probably just because you are on a steep- hard to judge the grade in a video. Anyway- enjoyed the video and learned something new!
TheGruntski (1 year ago)
Nice video. Exactly what works.
evan charles (1 year ago)
is it weird that i just randomly taught myself how to do this
witchen kitchen (1 year ago)
im not knocking the technique, im just baffled how this is considered expert.
Charlie Dillon (1 year ago)
People wonder why slopes go Icy
I only play yasuo (1 year ago)
I've been on a steeper one, I always wanted to do it but no confidence. Watched this and it helped me a lot, gonna go on that steeper mountain now.
PRE (1 year ago)
Nice technique -- make skis flat (release edges) and then turn. Thank you.
chimbatete (1 year ago)
Hi, This is not carving like on Advanced video 6.2. What style is this?
Lauren Batzli (1 year ago)
Lol where did that person go at 4:03😂😂😂😂
Rick Webking (1 year ago)
This instructor is amazing; communication skills, subtle humor and great technician. We should be paying for this resource!!!
worldclass777 (1 year ago)
Great! Well explained and demonstrated with master! Highly recommend.
mwg911hk (1 year ago)
This video helping me out so much. If anyone wants to get the slightest improvement , I recommend this. Keeping my hands and chest facing down the hill worked wonders!
Ron Hernandez (1 year ago)
Taking ski lessons from an Englishman is like getting driving lessons from a Chinese woman.
tsr7198 (1 year ago)
Edward Aldayas Chinese women must be excellent driving instructors!
Oh hell yes! This is a breakthrough video for me. Im a regular hockey skater going skiing for the first Time next week. this was was I was most curious about. Question: how demanding is skiing on your ankle and feet muscles? Hockey skating can be brutal, but I noticr ski boots really anchor the lower legs tightly... Does this mean the movemens are more from the upper legs? Hip groin, butt...
Jenny Lee (1 year ago)
i ski the wrong way. i just don't fall :-)
Jenny Lee (1 year ago)
Darren, where are you stationed? next winter i would like to come to take lessons in person. i am in New York. how much would it be for 2 weeks of group lessons? i don't think i can afford private lessons for two weeks
Chadi Kassouf (1 year ago)
i m gd at this technique but still can t handle red or black runs still afraid of the slope does any one have a tip for me??
Octernal (1 year ago)
I'd say just go down some red/black runs extremely slowly at first, to build up confidence
Raptor Masters (1 year ago)
amazing thank you for making it!!!!!
Gentoo films (1 year ago)
I would always bomb black diamonds now I can slow down
Kasia Lipska (1 year ago)
You have really nice teeth.
Sofia li (1 year ago)
I went on blues because I don't know which one is for green in night and when I got there I was so scar but this help me a lot thank u I am 11years old
Zara Fearon (1 year ago)
Thanks this really helped
urbanrunoff (1 year ago)
so i'm back into skiing after a 20 year hiatus. (started surfing and that was it...). I'm Swiss ski school trained even took some racing classes in my youth. I had no problem getting back into skiing, went down double black diamonds in Snowbird, effortless. But I realize I have that oldschool technique (pre parabolic skis). I guess I shift my weight too much even lift my skis on very tight slalom turns. Any tips to adapt to the "new" style? Ps: great channel!
James Wilson (8 months ago)
Take a few lessons from a modern ski school. Its really worth it. You will learn much more than a few tips.
sophie florence (1 year ago)
If I ever try that, imma freaking fall down every time. Today is my first ski race and I AM NOT READY.
Juraj Berthier (1 year ago)
perfect video thank you
Piste Rocker (1 year ago)
thanks a lot!! I almost learnt skiing following your tips!! Very clear and simple to put in practice
Ollie Rad (1 year ago)
its good but its intermediate not exspert
eg626 (1 year ago)
teaching adults how to ski must be like teaching a toddler how to shit in a toilet. they just don't get it.
Alex Webber (1 year ago)
What mt is that
Chen Cheng (1 year ago)
How much weight do you put on each ski, say at 4:40-4:50? Thanks.
Jon Stewart (1 year ago)
This is definitely geared towards mature adults. Many kids and teenagers with their young minds and bodies can take on double black diamonds with little difficulty without getting a scratch on them, but an adult needs to use a lot of strategy and logistics to do so!
DavesPride (11 months ago)
I’m a young skier and I just think this video was helpful because it showed good form. I think I look good but probably not as great as I think I am
TheGruntski (1 year ago)
Riiigghhht, just wait until you get hit by a younger out of control skier. I've been hit a few times and every time it was when I was at the side of a steep waiting for someone. You think you're out of the way standing at the very edge but noooo! I think this video is very important for young skiers to pay attention to.
Dean (1 year ago)
It's one thing taking on a double black diamond, but being able to ski it with rhythm and control is another thing entirely. A lot of youngsters fall in to the trap of thinking they're better than they are because they manage to get down a black.
FennecMurder (1 year ago)
Definitely, I was a very good skier as a kid, and growing up I have a prtty good sense of what falling could do to my body. I get way slower and more technical.
NMEofdaST8 (1 year ago)
Jon Stewart I'm younger and I just want to learn the movements and not put other people or myself in danger on the mountain
Jon Stewart (2 years ago)
Maybe you can help me here. I'm too lazy to read all the comments. I've been skiing 6 years now, 48 years old, and been skiing blues and higher only 3 years. I can handle single black diamonds (Alyeska standards) okay, but under one condition: if they're groomed and snow not falling like crazy. Ungroomed runs are difficult! I own skis that are the same as those ones you rent. Are those bulky fat ones with the curved tips really necessary to make it easier? I have a feeling it would be like carrying two lead weights on my legs.
misterfunnybones (1 year ago)
Fat skis are cheaters. You want Scot Schmidt's 220cm sticks seen in Warren Miller's Ski Time (1983). Seriously, fats are easier. It's all about balance on the ungroomed. In deep snow, each turn is a greater potential range of motion because your tips & tails can dive in powder plus full weight on one foot will cause that ski to sink deep while the other skims the top. I've skied & snowboarded in 2 meters of fresh unconsolidated snow & it's fantastic, but also dangerous due to immersion suffocation. Start with 10-30 cm, maintain balance, & build confidence.
Wei Ken (1 year ago)
Ski School by Elate Media s
Hi Jon. Yes the wider off-piste skis do help float through deeper snow and essentially make it easier. They are not essential but do help. Having the extra width under your feet can take a bit of getting used to especially on-piste but when you're skiing powder the feeling is sensational and the extra size is not noticeable. Just keep the rhythm and momentum going. For more tips on the basics of skiing powder check out our other films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9jGqY1BQw&index=9&list=PLD933EFB0EA5BFFAB Hope that helps.
Hippomenes (1 year ago)
They aren't necessary to make it easier. Try to hold your ski's as close as possible against each other. Never use a pizza point and keep enough speed to make your next turning. It's also handy to lean a little bit backward, so you have more stability when there is something beneath the snow. Freeride ski are good for skiing in deepsnow, they make it easier but it is possible with some practise to ski with regular ski's in deepsnow.
Jon Stewart (1 year ago)
Hippomenes ungroomed as in snow a foot deeper or two. Almost impossible to navigate in more than that
Fabtastical :D (2 years ago)
where is he filming? somewhere in france? cuz this ski resort looks FABULOUS xD
Jessica Lee (3 months ago)
sportsygirl8 (9 months ago)
I was also thinking maybe the Swiss Alps.
IanTheCookie (1 year ago)
Ski School by Elate Media Is the majority of that comment copied and pasted
Jon Stewart (1 year ago)
Ski School by Elate Media this looks like a better place. Alaska's Alyeska is not much of a learning curve for those that started skiing past their 20's if they want to tackle The North Face. That one is grueling!
hatin11r (2 years ago)
Darren......I started with the first 3 videos on 12/11/15. My first slide was on the same day. I had never been on a ski ever in my life. Tip/Waist/Tail and DIN setting ???? By the end of Dec. I was proficient on Blue's. Over the next 4 months I skied the majority of our resorts 92 runs. Black diamonds,steeps,trees and powder. I also had 4 hour long group lessons as well. However,I have to say your lessons helped me more than anything else. I skied over 30 days with over half being 4-10 hr. days. I really got the "bug"! This coming season I will concentrate on further refining my technique and reviewing these great videos. I am a success story of how a great series of videos with your instructor talent, got me enjoying this wonderful sport!! 95% self taught to boot.......thank you !!
Wow! I'm glad that we could be a part of such an amazing transformation and get you into such an awesome sport. We put a lot of time and effort into removing all the jargon and nonsense to make sure Darren delivers concise information that will help you learn how to ski. It's great to hear that it has helped.   Thank you for the positive feedback it makes it all worthwhile. Cheers Noddy. (ElateMedia)
FrozenAsphalt (2 years ago)
I was amazed at how quickly these lessons help to build confidence. Even as a novice skier the steep gradients no longer feel scary when you just breathe and keep focused on the basic body positioning and foot rotation. Many thanks for such a well thought-out series!
Bill D (2 years ago)
Just spent the last couple of years learning to get rid of the wedge and the skid and carve cleanly: useful style on open slopes especially if you want to go fast. Harb influenced me a lot here. However, that technique has been a problem on double blacks; too much speed buildup.Your clear explanation of foot rotation during the flat transition which coincides with unweighting the skis - this clicked in my head. I can't wait to put it into practice, and hopefully enjoy double blacks with your well- explained technique.
Alexander Pischulin (2 years ago)
Great lessons and tips. Thanks a lot!
ιяis M (2 years ago)
😢😢😢I can't edge my skis any tips?
Melvin Sandberg (11 months ago)
Hi there. Thanks for the question head over to our 'Edging Your Skis' lesson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIFDZVFYfJo&index=5&list=PLA893DD2FE6198306 Cheers
PKechichian (2 years ago)
I'm in Telluride now and watching your videos are giving me more confidence. I have improved my carving and my parallel this week. I'm quite excited really! I'm still struggling with staying in full control thru "double blues" with steep bits as I gain quite a bit of speed, but working with my breathing and telling myself to be calm and your voice in my head from the videos I've watched so far, I might just master (clearing the throat) my Intermediate Level skiing. :) Thank you Darren and Elate Media for your fantastic support! xx
Jon Stewart (2 years ago)
I have not yet skied at Telluride and heard nothing but great things about it. Mainly that it is a total paradise for intermediate and more casual skiers. Only place I've skied is Alaska and there's either easy local hills in Anchorage and Fairbanks, or mostly advanced at Alyeska.
Gary Bowen (2 years ago)
Your lessons are nice and clear, great audio. Hey, that letterbox technique is a terrific idea. I tried it and works beautifully. Easier to keep to the fall line without getting spooked. Thanks.
Derek Ramos (2 years ago)
Great lesson. I applied these 3 factors and was able to graduate to skiing black diamonds! Thank you Darren!!
Vlado Chiflidzhanov (2 years ago)
Very well explained and useful. Thanks a lot!
Edelweissuisse (2 years ago)
The last part is very difficult :-(
Dustin Fanciullo (2 years ago)
these are outstanding videos
Houdi2 (2 years ago)
A point of curiosity: Where are these videos are being shot?
Hey +Houdi2. Most of our how to ski lessons were shot in Serre Chevalier in the Southern Alpes of France. Cheers
Houdi2 (2 years ago)
Just an excellent video. Clear, well organized, bite-sized lessons. Thank you. I have learned so much in just a few minutes.
Thanks +Houdi2. We've worked so hard on the scripts to make sure we deliver really concise skiing lessons that help you guys learn how to ski. So it's great to hear such positive feedback from you. Have a great winter. Cheers Noddy
Zeyn1111 (2 years ago)
Finally a very important technique being taught! All these 'carving or nothing' styles of teaching have been creating stiff skiers down the slopes! This technique lets us control our speed so much better, it's a great skill to add to all the skills we need for all different types of terrain.
TheGruntski (1 year ago)
Could you do a video on the difference between a short fast turn where one alternates from one edge to another quicky versus a short radius turn that sheds speed. Short fast turns on the steeps look cool but certainly don't shed much speed - else they would not be a carved turn.
TheGruntski (1 year ago)
I agree. I got hit from behind by a mad carver at Mont Tremblant a few years ago just a bit after I exited the moguls to the side of a slope. Out of control guy doing the groomed center trying to stay on his edges only. That hurt! High edge angle means the ski follows the prescribed side cut radius and that's a very gradual sweeping turn.
Couldn't agree more +Zeyn1111. 'Carving' is a bit of a buzzword in skiing and it's great fun. But it is only one skill you need to have in your bag of skiing tricks to becoming a true master of the mountain. Thanks for the feedback and glad it helps.
kerim abdul cabber (2 years ago)
Best educational video series ever on tube
Leo Laurencio (1 year ago)
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kerim abdul cabber (1 year ago)
İts now my third season ı always keep the magical advices in my mind "just roll on your knees"( for carving) "just rely on your skis, they ll cut through the snow " (on rough terrain) if i can consider myself an upper intermediate skiier now ,this series has definitely made the biggest contribution
sheepteeth (1 year ago)
so true
tsr7198 (1 year ago)
Absolutely the best and I have told others. You should take pride in this Ski School series. I wish I had had it back when I started, skills would have come much more easily. Better late than never to straighten out my technique with some theory and reason. Simply the best from beginner to expert, THANKS!
deckybadbuzz (2 years ago)
+Ski School by Elate Media i completely agree. its definitely the best series available.
zzebowa (2 years ago)
Looks old fashioned though, not carved turns, and too much skidding.
Neil Normington (2 years ago)
+zzebowa Try carving on the steeps and in the bumps and you will spend more time on your backside!! You have to learn many different skill sets for all mountain skiing and carving is just ONE of those skills. Skidding and pivoting are essential skills and more useful than carving. Its not about fashion!
Mark Macielinski (2 years ago)
+zzebowa carving is just another tool in the bag of tricks. Can't use it when the turn radius is shorter than your ski. Think a narrow 8 foot crux. Giant waist high bumps and trees are also not a good place to try a carve only style. Giant powder bowls, however, that's carving heaven.
John Niem (2 years ago)
+zzebowa : Unless you are an expert skier who likes to carve all your turns even on the steep --resulting in a lot of speed , side slipping (pivot slip) to control speed is a must to learn. This video is excellent for intermediates to advanced skiers to learn how to ski in control on the steep
Thank you!!!
Mike Aronson (2 years ago)
Thanks +Mike Aronson.
Dcxplant (2 years ago)
this seems like a good exercise as a warmup on more gentle slopes while learning to get skis parallel in turns and the hockey stop technique
Dcxplant (2 years ago)
+Dcxplant I meant, the part of sliding flat and stopping on edges, flatten, slide, edge stop, etc.
Matt Aldi (2 years ago)
Jenna Welch (2 years ago)
I was good at skiing last year and I went today and wiped out now I'm not as confident.
lunarsquid (2 years ago)
+Jenna Welch - In many of these videos, Darren points out that when you find yourself making mistakes or unable to do something, always just go back a step to the basics and go from there. Don't be discouraged, just get back out and get your muscles and brain working together again. :)
Anne Mel (2 years ago)
[email protected] (2 years ago)
Thanx for the quality of the videos. I thought the only way to turn was using body weight, could you explain foot rotation a bit more ?

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