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Expert Ski Lessons #7.5 - Skiing Steeps

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http://www.SkiSchoolApp.com. In this lesson ski instructor Darren Turner takes a look at three key skills to help you learn how to ski steep runs: edging, foot rotation and body separation. This ski lesson series is aimed at building on your advanced skiing technique and helping make you an Expert all mountain skier. Check out our Apps - there are no ads and once downloaded no need for expensive streaming or downloading when on the hill, with nearly half an hour of video, a diary facility, split-screen video analysis that uses the device's video camera to compare your skiing with demos and much more it's the ultimate how to ski, teaching app. iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/artist/elatemedia.com/id390656741?affId=1894531 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Elate+Media Windows: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-GB/store/publishers?publisherId=ELATE%2BMEDIA%2BLTD Remember that these how to ski videos are not a replacement for on-slope instruction with a qualified ski instructor, and should only viewed as a supplement. Subscribe to our channel for more Ski School lessons and tips to help improve your skiing. Get inspiration with new ski videos uploaded throughout the winter that can help you learn how to ski better ready for your ski holidays.
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rolfingyogaspace (3 days ago)
The audio is sooo goood
Arden Powers (13 days ago)
It also takes a lot of Angulation, as well as the commensurate amount of Inclination to execute these turns properly on the steep . . . without these ingredients, along with " Verticle Motion " (all of which are demonstrated here) . . . initiation, turn shape (in the controlling phase), and turn completion will quickly unravel on the steep !
Joe Salemi (16 days ago)
I was expecting to see an expert level instruction. But, the explanation about pole plants and upper body separation were excellent. These are skills that should be taught AT THE SAME TIME as “make pizza skis”. and I don’t mean that as a back handed remark against this video at all. I see instructors demonstrating how to turn using this tin pants style, arms 90 degrees I guess for balance for “intermediates”. Knees stay in one position so no unweighting, no pole plant at all and no edging. It looks like they are teaching to just foot steer with no attention to separation. The best advice I ever got as a young 16 year old intermediate was from an old guy on a short chairlift ride who simply said; “kid, keep your shoulders square to the lodge and hands in front no matter which way your skis turn.” The second best advise was to “plant your pole”. 47 seasons later and I’m still working at it.
Raf Tube (18 days ago)
Hey, I can see those Illuminati symbols under your skis!
Angin san (21 days ago)
Great lesson, clear and easy shown the most important technics.Thx a lot
Beverly Coles (21 days ago)
Excellentinstruction....CSIA, did you see this?
renetchi (26 days ago)
how to turn so fast like that!
f1fan29 (1 month ago)
I searched for expert I ALREADY KNOW THIS!!! AHHHHH
Tom (1 month ago)
He is doing everything out of his hips nothing out of his angle and knees. This is realy bad!!
Tom (1 month ago)
No alpin basic position at all
Yunkai Zhai (1 month ago)
Nice.
Tim Carter (1 month ago)
Where is the angulation with the knees and hip , that's how you make an edge. All of which is needed on steeps.
Vegas Golden knights (1 month ago)
Where are you skiing?
Eric Cui (1 month ago)
I got to admit the skiing conditions are great.
OrdinaryWorld (1 month ago)
Thanks again. I literally learned to ski from scratch using this series of videos. Love the irony at around 3 minutes with the guy in the background leading the turn with his body, the absolute antithesis of the lesson itself.
Jt Williams (1 month ago)
Can you say, 'angulate'? Dont kmow what this guy is saying or why he is the expert!
Jinping Yang (1 month ago)
No offense, but it’s kinda blurry. It’s still an awesome vid though!
Keith Thomas (1 month ago)
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Tomek_silesia (1 month ago)
Very, very, very good advices! Thank you!
John Malloy (1 month ago)
This is a good, simple lesson. The importance of keeping your upper body perpendicular to the fall line cannot be overstated. Even on regular runs but especially on steep runs and critically on steep runs in deep snow you have to keep your energy forward. If your balance gets off your weight goes back and you can't get your heels rotated. Might mention that the poles are an axis around which you rotate and also a timing device to help keep the rhythm of weighting and unweighting. Thank you.
John Malloy (1 month ago)
+mach ran I suspect you're kidding with me but the fall line is the line a ball would take if you rolled it down the hill. The steepest part, the shortest distance to the bottom. Every slope has one and you need to keep your upper body square to this. This prevents you from using your arms to swing yourself around to turn which would make you off-balance and unweight your skis properly. By just doing this one thing AND keeping your hands out in front of you, your skiing improves dramatically. You'll feel the difference.
mach ran (1 month ago)
John Malloy whats the fall line?
Henry Gonzalez (1 month ago)
It’s funny On my 5th day of skiing I was trying this and it worked. 5th day!? What? I was a long time snowboarder and it’s just coming naturally I guess
richard975 (2 months ago)
Great video - could you do one on the use of the outside ski in intermediate and advanced terrain?
Cooper Holland (2 months ago)
"expert"
Tom Bowman (2 months ago)
Darren, this is one of your best videos ever. I teach skiing in the states and if skiers would follow these 3 simple skiing techniques their skiing will improve 10 fold. Keep up the great work!!
Dwight Smith (3 months ago)
He has excellent videos. He breaks the movements down into digestible instruction.
Silver Fletcher (3 months ago)
The main secret of skking: steep Forward and never back. The steeper the slope the more you must bend Forward.
domcasual84 (3 months ago)
Is anyone checking this dudes hips?
Peter Mitterrutzner (3 months ago)
he seems to come from racing,nice explainations, but when you see him ski ,it`s sort of naja...his hips don`t seem to be right,downhill knie always a bit too straight and his hips-oh had that one..don`t know what else it really is -just not on point...
Thank you so much great Channel
miyatyan0805 (5 months ago)
これを見て上手な人増えているはずなんだけど増えていないのはなぜだろう。
richard975 (5 months ago)
moving the weight onto the new outside ski before flattening is also essential, should be step 0. otherwise you cant flatten the skis in the first place to start the next turn. skiing is a race to the outside ski.
Craig Houdeshell (6 months ago)
Excellent lesson. Thank you.
a2littleralph (8 months ago)
Your link from lesson 7.4 to here is broken. It leads back to lesson 7.3. Love the content BTW.
TheCaptainhaddock1 (10 months ago)
The resort is Serre Chevalier in the Southern French Alps. Long way to go but worth it as you avoid too many English voices, it's pretty snow sure (lots of stuff above 2k metres and north facing slopes) and the runs are beautiful among the trees which grow higher than other resorts as they're larch.
Spencer Parkin (10 months ago)
Thanks, Darren. I've been using your videos all winter, and I really think they've helped me learn to ski.
Gary Frost (10 months ago)
My uncle Rico says that he can throw a football right over that mountain.
Alexandre Thuaud (10 months ago)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6urai3Mhys8
Carlos Esteban Gottardi (11 months ago)
Your lessons are the best on internet i have found so far. Do you have some lessons for icy black slopes ?. Thanks!!!! keep doing that excellent work.
Fester Adams (11 months ago)
I'm a snowboarder, never skied and want to know why y'all have poles? I mean if you don't pole plant you cant link your turns or lose balance? What are you pole planting in powder? BTW the poles make you look retarded
Dwight Stones (11 months ago)
Just curious how tall are you and what size skies (CM). Thanks
Lazar MiLic (11 months ago)
You make it look so easy ! I went to a steep slope today almost broke both my legs
Tim Mcmurtree (11 months ago)
Yea. I need this video. I went down a blue run from the top of the mountain. Couldn’t shave off speed, and ate sh!t going like mach 5.
msanders98 (11 months ago)
Rotating the leg? we say turn the legs here. Rotation is something totally different, in a bad way. Rotation is a 4 letter word in skiing.You need to have separation of upper /lower body to maintain grip
Julian Cheng (1 year ago)
Right around 1:06-1:11, you can see him flip from facing one way across the hill to the other. Has he done a video on how to do that?
porakai (1 year ago)
Thank you!!!
Michael freeman (1 year ago)
Great videos , very explanatory Thank you much . I skied in brevant , cormyere and Argentiner , great places
Gary Pool (1 year ago)
I went skiing once when young and 5 times in the last 2 years. I watched and imagined doing drills Mr. Turner covers in these videos during times between skiing and taken one beginner ski lesson. I am tremendously grateful for the time, care, and expertise put into these videos and to the effort of the beginner ski lesson. I have progressed in the past 5 sessions: Greens, Blues, Blues, Easy Black, Blacks with bumps. Yesterday when I looked up at a mogul run that I navigated under control (though slow) without falling or being erratic I really felt accomplished and had so much fun. The Parallel turn (this video) and steeps video probably did me the most good but the others built the base. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. As a midwesterner, I may ski thrice a year and see plenty of ice. I kind of bootlegged a warmup run but it would be nice if you made an actual video for the now and then skier (1x-3x a year). Currently I pick a blue for the first run start super slow with hockey stop after hockey stop for the first third, speedy parallel turns for 2nd third, then straight speed to hockey stops last third. I feel after that I can move safely about but my skiing is probably rubbish :) Do you have a standard warmup for hacks? What about the bumps? How do you warm up for that other than just be mentally ready? The bumps definitely punish when I am not focused and show weakness in my tactics.
Kk_shammari_kK (1 year ago)
This is just like carving but in a shorter way
Bucket List Badass (1 year ago)
Damn good video!
Réka Szabó (1 year ago)
Your videos are soooooo useful!!!!! Thank you very much!*-*
headphonic8 (1 year ago)
I don't think this necessarily needs to be an "expert" lesson. A lot of these tips were given to me by my ski instructor, and I only ski blues. It's just good form and keeps your speed in check regardless of your level. Also just a suggestion: during these lessons can you show what it looks like when you're doing it badly/wrong? It's really helpful to be able to visually identify when you're doing it correctly or not.
이은실 (1 year ago)
Very very helpful !!
uN nAm (1 year ago)
Great work! Keep it up!
Joel Whalen (1 year ago)
Why face down the the hill
sportsygirl8 (1 year ago)
Amazing video! I am working my way to a blue-black and was curious to how you manage steep hills, turns out when I was on a green that I made those movements that you would on the steep hills when I'd get nervous, so if I was doing that on a green, I should be able to do it on a blue-black.
stephen miller (1 year ago)
Good technique, but take it into the steep to demonstrate the steep. Fall line initiation becomes so much more critical.
Gamer Flash114 (1 year ago)
Teach harder stuff.
Gamer Flash114 (1 year ago)
+that slope is a blue which is sooooo easy
Gamer Flash114 (1 year ago)
What is this? Skiing noobs school. This stuff is easy and im a pro skier at age 11.
Black Goreinu (1 year ago)
CLICK
MD ST (1 year ago)
Excellent instructions!
Miao MA (1 year ago)
At 4min 30s
Giuliano Cislaghi (1 year ago)
Yeah all these theories only seem to be applied to blue runs. You can always make sense of a blue run - even backwards
Nóri Oravecz (1 year ago)
Hi ! My skies are a bit longer than they should be based on my height. Since I know that longer skies are used for faster skiing, it must be possible to gain control over them.  Do you have tips for that ?  Thank you in advance !
TCA_ SnKn (1 year ago)
This is like a 5 at squaw
KennyAndTheJets _ (1 year ago)
You have to know how to keep control of your skis when your 20 degree slope right m'dudes
David Walko (1 year ago)
Great video and very useful tips. Are you emphasizing the movements for demonstrating purposes? I noticed there seems to be a little more snow being kicked up towards the back of the ski (almost skidding- 4:40) rather than pure carving with the front or the entire entire ski. When I release my edges I try not to stop quite as much so each turn flows a little more. It's probably just because you are on a steep- hard to judge the grade in a video. Anyway- enjoyed the video and learned something new!
TheGruntski (1 year ago)
Nice video. Exactly what works.
it’s evan (1 year ago)
is it weird that i just randomly taught myself how to do this
witchen kitchen (1 year ago)
im not knocking the technique, im just baffled how this is considered expert.
Charlie Dillon (1 year ago)
People wonder why slopes go Icy
I only play yasuo (1 year ago)
I've been on a steeper one, I always wanted to do it but no confidence. Watched this and it helped me a lot, gonna go on that steeper mountain now.
PRE (1 year ago)
Nice technique -- make skis flat (release edges) and then turn. Thank you.
chimbatete (1 year ago)
Hi, This is not carving like on Advanced video 6.2. What style is this?
Lauren Batzli (1 year ago)
Lol where did that person go at 4:03😂😂😂😂
Rick Webking (1 year ago)
This instructor is amazing; communication skills, subtle humor and great technician. We should be paying for this resource!!!
worldclass777 (1 year ago)
Great! Well explained and demonstrated with master! Highly recommend.
mwg911hk (1 year ago)
This video helping me out so much. If anyone wants to get the slightest improvement , I recommend this. Keeping my hands and chest facing down the hill worked wonders!
Ron Hernandez (1 year ago)
Taking ski lessons from an Englishman is like getting driving lessons from a Chinese woman.
tsr7198 (1 year ago)
Edward Aldayas Chinese women must be excellent driving instructors!
Oh hell yes! This is a breakthrough video for me. Im a regular hockey skater going skiing for the first Time next week. this was was I was most curious about. Question: how demanding is skiing on your ankle and feet muscles? Hockey skating can be brutal, but I noticr ski boots really anchor the lower legs tightly... Does this mean the movemens are more from the upper legs? Hip groin, butt...
Jenny Lee (2 years ago)
i ski the wrong way. i just don't fall :-)
Jenny Lee (2 years ago)
Darren, where are you stationed? next winter i would like to come to take lessons in person. i am in New York. how much would it be for 2 weeks of group lessons? i don't think i can afford private lessons for two weeks
Chadi Kassouf (2 years ago)
i m gd at this technique but still can t handle red or black runs still afraid of the slope does any one have a tip for me??
Octernal (2 years ago)
I'd say just go down some red/black runs extremely slowly at first, to build up confidence
Raptor Masters (2 years ago)
amazing thank you for making it!!!!!
Gentoo films (2 years ago)
I would always bomb black diamonds now I can slow down
Kasia Lipska (2 years ago)
You have really nice teeth.
Ashes (2 years ago)
I went on blues because I don't know which one is for green in night and when I got there I was so scar but this help me a lot thank u I am 11years old
Zara Fearon (2 years ago)
Thanks this really helped
urbanrunoff (2 years ago)
so i'm back into skiing after a 20 year hiatus. (started surfing and that was it...). I'm Swiss ski school trained even took some racing classes in my youth. I had no problem getting back into skiing, went down double black diamonds in Snowbird, effortless. But I realize I have that oldschool technique (pre parabolic skis). I guess I shift my weight too much even lift my skis on very tight slalom turns. Any tips to adapt to the "new" style? Ps: great channel!
James Wilson (11 months ago)
Take a few lessons from a modern ski school. Its really worth it. You will learn much more than a few tips.
sophie florence (2 years ago)
If I ever try that, imma freaking fall down every time. Today is my first ski race and I AM NOT READY.
Juraj Berthier (2 years ago)
perfect video thank you
Piste Rocker (2 years ago)
thanks a lot!! I almost learnt skiing following your tips!! Very clear and simple to put in practice
Ollie Rad (2 years ago)
its good but its intermediate not exspert
eg626 (2 years ago)
teaching adults how to ski must be like teaching a toddler how to shit in a toilet. they just don't get it.
Alex Webber (2 years ago)
What mt is that
Chen Cheng (2 years ago)
How much weight do you put on each ski, say at 4:40-4:50? Thanks.
Jon Stewart (2 years ago)
This is definitely geared towards mature adults. Many kids and teenagers with their young minds and bodies can take on double black diamonds with little difficulty without getting a scratch on them, but an adult needs to use a lot of strategy and logistics to do so!
DavesPride (1 year ago)
I’m a young skier and I just think this video was helpful because it showed good form. I think I look good but probably not as great as I think I am
TheGruntski (1 year ago)
Riiigghhht, just wait until you get hit by a younger out of control skier. I've been hit a few times and every time it was when I was at the side of a steep waiting for someone. You think you're out of the way standing at the very edge but noooo! I think this video is very important for young skiers to pay attention to.
Dean (1 year ago)
It's one thing taking on a double black diamond, but being able to ski it with rhythm and control is another thing entirely. A lot of youngsters fall in to the trap of thinking they're better than they are because they manage to get down a black.
FennecMurder (1 year ago)
Definitely, I was a very good skier as a kid, and growing up I have a prtty good sense of what falling could do to my body. I get way slower and more technical.
NMEofdaST8 (1 year ago)
Jon Stewart I'm younger and I just want to learn the movements and not put other people or myself in danger on the mountain
Jon Stewart (2 years ago)
Maybe you can help me here. I'm too lazy to read all the comments. I've been skiing 6 years now, 48 years old, and been skiing blues and higher only 3 years. I can handle single black diamonds (Alyeska standards) okay, but under one condition: if they're groomed and snow not falling like crazy. Ungroomed runs are difficult! I own skis that are the same as those ones you rent. Are those bulky fat ones with the curved tips really necessary to make it easier? I have a feeling it would be like carrying two lead weights on my legs.
misterfunnybones (2 years ago)
Fat skis are cheaters. You want Scot Schmidt's 220cm sticks seen in Warren Miller's Ski Time (1983). Seriously, fats are easier. It's all about balance on the ungroomed. In deep snow, each turn is a greater potential range of motion because your tips & tails can dive in powder plus full weight on one foot will cause that ski to sink deep while the other skims the top. I've skied & snowboarded in 2 meters of fresh unconsolidated snow & it's fantastic, but also dangerous due to immersion suffocation. Start with 10-30 cm, maintain balance, & build confidence.
Wei Ken (2 years ago)
Ski School by Elate Media s
Hi Jon. Yes the wider off-piste skis do help float through deeper snow and essentially make it easier. They are not essential but do help. Having the extra width under your feet can take a bit of getting used to especially on-piste but when you're skiing powder the feeling is sensational and the extra size is not noticeable. Just keep the rhythm and momentum going. For more tips on the basics of skiing powder check out our other films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9jGqY1BQw&index=9&list=PLD933EFB0EA5BFFAB Hope that helps.
Hippomenes (2 years ago)
They aren't necessary to make it easier. Try to hold your ski's as close as possible against each other. Never use a pizza point and keep enough speed to make your next turning. It's also handy to lean a little bit backward, so you have more stability when there is something beneath the snow. Freeride ski are good for skiing in deepsnow, they make it easier but it is possible with some practise to ski with regular ski's in deepsnow.
Jon Stewart (2 years ago)
Hippomenes ungroomed as in snow a foot deeper or two. Almost impossible to navigate in more than that
Fabtastical :D (2 years ago)
where is he filming? somewhere in france? cuz this ski resort looks FABULOUS xD
Jessica Lee (6 months ago)
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sportsygirl8 (1 year ago)
I was also thinking maybe the Swiss Alps.
IanTheCookie (1 year ago)
Ski School by Elate Media Is the majority of that comment copied and pasted
Jon Stewart (2 years ago)
Ski School by Elate Media this looks like a better place. Alaska's Alyeska is not much of a learning curve for those that started skiing past their 20's if they want to tackle The North Face. That one is grueling!
hatin11r (2 years ago)
Darren......I started with the first 3 videos on 12/11/15. My first slide was on the same day. I had never been on a ski ever in my life. Tip/Waist/Tail and DIN setting ???? By the end of Dec. I was proficient on Blue's. Over the next 4 months I skied the majority of our resorts 92 runs. Black diamonds,steeps,trees and powder. I also had 4 hour long group lessons as well. However,I have to say your lessons helped me more than anything else. I skied over 30 days with over half being 4-10 hr. days. I really got the "bug"! This coming season I will concentrate on further refining my technique and reviewing these great videos. I am a success story of how a great series of videos with your instructor talent, got me enjoying this wonderful sport!! 95% self taught to boot.......thank you !!
Wow! I'm glad that we could be a part of such an amazing transformation and get you into such an awesome sport. We put a lot of time and effort into removing all the jargon and nonsense to make sure Darren delivers concise information that will help you learn how to ski. It's great to hear that it has helped.   Thank you for the positive feedback it makes it all worthwhile. Cheers Noddy. (ElateMedia)
FrozenAsphalt (2 years ago)
I was amazed at how quickly these lessons help to build confidence. Even as a novice skier the steep gradients no longer feel scary when you just breathe and keep focused on the basic body positioning and foot rotation. Many thanks for such a well thought-out series!

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